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Jinny Rhoads's avatar

It would be nice if more physicians would come forward and admit these same facts. It's easier to bury their heads in the sand and take the money I guess. Shame on them!

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sk's avatar

Physicians are representative of the good and not so good in society with the exception that they spent more time and money on the piece of paper they have. In general, most people don't speak out, and that's reflective in physicians.

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sk's avatar

Thanks. That was me sending you to one of my essays. The idea is similar to the use of fire, arising in different places at different times. I'm sure there are others who concluded similarly.

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Bill Rice, Jr.'s avatar

Powerful and original piece to start your Substack writing career! I look forward to future articles.

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sk's avatar

Thanks, and keep up all your good work.

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Talisker Skye's avatar

This is a very interesting and plausible hypothesis as far as I can tell. The way you describe it makes me wonder why it hasn't been brought up before. Oh wait - I know why...

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sk's avatar

Thanks. In one of the references I used, it stated the following:

" Preparations for diagnosing, treating and preventing bacterial pneumonia should be among highest priorities in influenza pandemic planning, they write. "We are encouraged by the fact that pandemic planners are already considering and implementing some of these actions," says Dr. Fauci."

That was written on 8/19/08

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SaHiB's avatar

Why obtain a chest x-ray for pneumonia? Isn't a "rattle" rather indicative? Have physicians lost their stethoscopes or forgotten how to use them? Do medical schools even instruct in stethoscope use these days? And what has pneumonia to do with COVID? The choking bronchial spasms are far direr, yet near universally disregarded. (Can also be ascertained with a stethoscope, but more difficult.) Coronavirus is bronchitis virus! https://www.the-scientist.com/foundations/coronavirus-closeup-1964-67858 (Granted, I only had them with the original strain.)

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sk's avatar

I'm a radiation oncologist. Many cases of patients with presumed pneumonia were later found to actually have lung cancer. You are correct that pneumonia could be diagnosed clinically and be treated so however, you have to pick and choose your approach, not just for medical-legal reasons but for the good of your patient. I've diagnosed and treated pneumonia clinically however, I knew the patients history and was comfortable in the situation. Regarding the stethoscope, what's currently taught in medical school is another issue. I have an article coming out on Friday on Substack that will address the field of "doctoring".

Your question regarding pneumonia and Covid is a broad topic but in a nutshell, most of what is called "Covid" is what would be called a mild Flu-like illness, meaning patients experience various signs and symptoms but nothing is distinctive, what we call pathognomonic. As for the people we get really sick, they've either been poisoned, i.e. exposed to some form of toxin (my contention which some others also share), or they have a bacterial pneumonia, which the CDC and Fauci admitted in that 2008 memo which I referenced.

The issue of what is seen under an electron microscope and its clinical significance is alluded to in one of my articles. In a nutshell, if you research how electron microscopy is performed, what the terms "isolated" and "purified" mean, but how they are applied in virology, and how the extrapolation between electron microscopic appearance and clinical illness is made, you will discover that the story being pushed is full of gaps. You can also read on Germ Theory and Terrain theory to get a better picture of the haze we are in.

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SaHiB's avatar

Thanks. Wow, was that an elaborate response!

Hey, youse the radiation oncologist, but I wonder about having lung cancer at the same time as flu, covid, or the like. Does lung cancer mimic these? The first covid (Feb/March 2020) gave me bronchial spasms, as well as flu-like symptoms. Symmetrel did not help, though peppermint oil did. I didn't take enough vitamin C or D to make a difference, and did not take zinc or ivermectin, though I had both. Later "covids" were only distinctive for fever and headache. Vitamin C relieved both.

I'm unclear as to your points in the final paragraph, but will let it ride.

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sk's avatar

What happens with those with "pneumonia" that ultimately are found to have lung cancer is they typically have what's called "post-obstructive" pneumonia, meaning the tumor blocks the airway and there is some collapse of lung. So this "mass" effect could be pneumonia or a lung cancer. Typically antibiotics are given and often a chest x-ray is done to see if the abnormality goes away, but it could take many weeks in the case of an infectious pneumonia. It's not uncommon for this cycle to be repeated several times until a biopsy is finally done. Symptoms of many entities involving the lungs can be the same or not. It's why we have the differential diagnosis, the possibilities. Ultimately treatment of anything depends on the underlying cause. Otherwise only the symptoms are treated. That's why you responded or didn't as you did.

In the last paragraph I brought up key points that the Covid story actually revolves around. There is the party line, then there is the contrarian view.

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SaHiB's avatar

I had pneumonia (with rattle!) from a flu a few years earlier. I "treated" it with steam inhalation. My dad had pneumonia several times, then also included, was hospitalized, and then went to a convalescent home. But he reacted in a mainstream medicine way much more than I did. We both had bacterial pericarditis in 1979. I just waited for it to subside. He went to a hospital and got the full cardiac workup. (And yes, took nitroglycerin for pericarditis!)

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sk's avatar

There's much to be learned about the nature of illness and how to address it. Age, underlying medical conditions, diet and fitness play a role. Then of course there's misdiagnosis and inappropriate therapies. Usually it's hard to kill someone, but then there are those other times.

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